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Here I go again…..I'm serious asking you guys and hope will get some 'serious' answer... (crossing my finger)

I was talking to a friend today about how easy guys get a date, maybe I didn’t try hard enough or what?

And I told my friend…you are a guy and why don’t you help me to get some dates…nothing serious, just to have dinner, drinks and good conversation, so he said …oh…its easy…if you want to get lay~ WOWOWOW…wait…get a date is not the same as getting lay I said, I only want to start dating, have fun and feel like a wanted woman again but I cant guarantee whoever date me will get lay. He laughed and said I’m so old fashion thinking of just going on date with no ‘happy ending’ offer…he said I wont get date if I tell people that up front! 

Its that a modern version of booty call? Where is the ‘old fashion’ date:

Ask a girl out nicely, pick her up at her place…take her to dinner and maybe follow with drinks if they enjoy each others company, then take her back to HER home in 1 piece, have a goodbye kiss on the cheek and say I had a great time (if its true), I hope you do too and sweet dream. Goodnight!”

That’s what a proper date should be. Of course maybe now people skip some but still they don’t JUMP in the bed on the first date?! 

So…what you guys think? Its that what everybody expect nowadays, if the guy ask you out for a date, they expect to have sex in return?  

 

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Why did I just read all 17 pages of this when I am not even single or in Shenzhen right now? Can somebody bonk me on the head with a Nerf bat.

 

I think somebody must have said it already but just because a guy hopes the 2nd or 3rd date will end in bed does not make him any less of a gentleman than the guy who never makes a move. Conversely, a woman who sleeps with a man she really likes on the second or third date is still a lady.

I am no dating expert but one of the very best relationships that I ever had was with a woman who slept with me before the first date!  In fact, we never went on any "dates" but we still were very much into each other and had a loving and caring relationship. 

Is this the one that's trying to get a green card for the states right now? :-)

@EK

You know I can't answer that because no matter what the answer is I might be in trouble (think about it). I did use the past tense and didn't say if it was a Chinese woman so that should help you figure the answer out.  Don't make me delete my account again.

BTW, the woman you are referring to is not trying to get a green card or leave China. I am sure some people will doubt that and that is why the visa was refused I guess.

The USA visa attempt was only because Canada rejected her and by visiting the USA, it would show that she is not a flight risk. It makes sense for her to visit USA where I can at least see her briefly depending on how much she was handcuffed to the tour group. I also have relatives in the USA.

I am optimistic that her next visa attempt to Canada goes through without any problems even though there doesn't appear to be any reason to be optimistic.

I will keep trying every year. Perhaps this will cause bigger problems between us then I realize but I think time is on our side and not against us.

It's all good mate, I was simply teasing, and fortunately you have a good sense of humour.

I wish you luck with that mate.

cheers. :-)

Why did I just read all 17 pages of this when I am not even single or in Shenzhen right now? Can somebody bonk me on the head with a Nerf bat.

Maybe because my discussion became legend and attract your attention :D

 

I think somebody must have said it already but just because a guy hopes the 2nd or 3rd date will end in bed does not make him any less of a gentleman than the guy who never makes a move. Conversely, a woman who sleeps with a man she really likes on the second or third date is still a lady.

I totally agreed with you on that. But what I see or heard are quite different and as you can see peoples reaction here its quite...... 'interesting'.

 

I am no dating expert but one of the very best relationships that I ever had was with a woman who slept with me before the first date!  In fact, we never went on any "dates" but we still were very much into each other and had a loving and caring relationship. 

I'm happy for you! You are the lucky one then :D
I dont think I went on any date with my last relationship before we 'dive in', in fact I fall in love with him even before we meet in person. I guess I'm just more into the mind set and personality. haha~ 

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