I have a unique problem and am looking on some legal help to fix it.
In our building in Nanshan the "help" or Baoan, office and trash people have moved into the stairs by the elevator and down in the basement.
They do nothing, no cleaning, no helping, no protection of the building. Unless they can try to fine us.
If we try to fix our water or drain pipes off the building they say their too busy, but if we pay them...
So we fix it ourselves and they try to write us a huge fine.
Now they are attacking us and our dogs.
I want to know what kind of residency permits they need to live in the building.
Now we cant even have a phone because they cleaned out the phone closet, sold all the components, and the company wont put new wires in for fear of losing them.
Effectively I want them evicted from the building. They arent living in permitted areas and they even built a shitter on the roof connected to the storm drain.
I've never seen anything like this in any country I've lived in the Philippines
Even if you can just read Chinese and direct me to a building code that's all I need.
The law is a bit too specific for my level of Chinese reading.
You can see some pictures of the fire escape stairs, yeah thats where they live... Then a closet where phone equipment used to be, and finally the management company.
Dont ever rent at a JIN YANG CHENG property
You've complained to the property group and they've told you what exactly? They allow this to continue? I would imagine they know about this in some way and allow this to go on. Did you talk to the police? Have you tried luring away these people with leftovers of anything? Cause whatever they are cooking in that diseased looking kitchen cant taste much better than something dug out of the toilet.
Maybe view this educational video:
I would say you are fighting a losing battle. Stop paying your rent and utilities. Bullshit to the landlord that your money is tied up and will pay later. Move out.
If you report them to the authorities, they may or may not get slap on the wrist. They will still be in control of your building and you have pissed them off.
Agree, that is good advice. One of the secrets to having a peaceful life in China is recognizing what you can and can not do. For an expat in China, many times it is better to be water then to be the rock. Have a great and peaceful day!
....I am just a Buddhist gone bad!
That's what Bruce Lee would have said... "Be water my friend...".
god, i really need to learn this. too many times i am the rock and it just ruins my mood:) Good to read that. Hope I can actually apply it.
agree, best to just leave
Move. Contracts and laws don't mean shit here.
LOL, that's nasty
Call the cops, (I hope you can speak Chinese or they won't take you seriously), that's against so many fire safety rules it borders on ridiculous. Maybe you can get someone from Shenzhen Daily to come over and take pics at the same time you have the cops over.
But seriously, o you really wanna live in a place like that, even if you can get those people out? That just seems like a waste of money.
BTW: Just saw your job is "Educator", so better don't call the cops, they might end up checking your visa :D
Visa is good. We bought the house, paid taxes and have the red book.
We had no idea this was how things were here, we just assumed people were going up to hang laundry when we moved in and saw employees climbing the stairs every so often. Stupid us...
Love the people under the stairs reference, only problem is they are Above the stairs.
Police. HAH. We played them a video of us being harassed by the locals and they sent over uniforms and a car. The undoccumented trash who were taking over the street kicked the car until the police left. So I know the battle is lost. Even the businesses have given up the fight. If they arent "da dao" side they are catering to a special clientele. If they are "da dao" side they did a facelift for Universaide and sell recycled food.
Still, once you know you are going to lose all the wonderful options of how open up to you.
I'm trying to find some solid law that I can have behind me when TV and newspapers are called. The management company is doing crap about it and just keeps pushing propaganda about how much they care about the customers. Cops are powerless here, the average camera is more powerful than anything.
I want to make it air tight so when I do go down there are plenty burning with me.
Firefighting regulations are a good start. That is 100% a breach of all of them.
But when the cops already came over and didn't do anything, you might just be living in a really shitty place and should consider moving. Not sure anyone will give a crap if you are somewhere where the cops are "powerless".
Even in rundown places like Baishizhou is some kind of order and police enforcement.
Care to elaborate on the harassing? Do you have a local who can assist you with communicating with the authorities?
yes, calling TV and newspapers is the only way to push the management company do their jobs. "第一现场" is the right choice.