Coriolanus (2011)

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Comment by Zen In FRED's Nutsack on May 21, 2012 at 4:22pm

She was hired before I started tempering with the Sales Team, so I had a no-say. Having said that - trusting somebody is not a prerequisite for me not to hire them, or fire them later on (otherwise I'd be working alone). I'll just pay more attention to their working style and results, than I normally would have :-)

Comment by Isabelle on May 21, 2012 at 3:51pm

I'm curious, how is it working out? You hired her knowing fully well you can't trust her? I don't think I can handle that if I were she.

Comment by Zen In FRED's Nutsack on May 21, 2012 at 3:29pm

Funny you should mention; there's three types of people I don't trust: politicians, lawyers and women. His mother was two of them - a deadly combination indeed (I consider her a politician, despite the fact that she didn't actually hold any office). 

FYI: I have one Sales person who was educated as a lawyer, then was a politician for about six years, and to top it all - she's a woman. I don't trust her one bit, and she knows it :-P

Comment by Isabelle on May 21, 2012 at 3:23pm

Politics sucks a**. Politics plus his mother's own ambitions both for herself and her son, these two deadly combination is what I can only remember thinking in his death. I was deeply moved I can't even cry.

Comment by Zen In FRED's Nutsack on May 21, 2012 at 3:13pm

I think the problem of these men is quite similar to the mistake all of us make in life very often: we tend to think that our efforts and sacrifices will be appreciated by people. They won't. When making decisions, people never look back at what we did for them; instead, they look forward at what we can do for them in the future.

Coriolanus made that very mistake. First, when he chose to "be himself", counting on people remembering his accomplishments when making their choice, whether to support him or not. He forgot that he did his part already, and when making the choice, people will look at what he will do for them in the future, instead of what he already did for them. Second, after switching sides and winning the conflict in favor of the Volscians, he forgot that they will only stay "loyal" to him for as long as they think he will have value for them (destroy Rome). Once he was of no use, he immediately became a threat (after all, he kicked their asses before, and was known for switching sides for personal gain). 

People are ungrateful bastards and it's worth remembering it. 

Comment by Isabelle on May 21, 2012 at 2:58pm

***movie

Comment by Isabelle on May 21, 2012 at 2:58pm

Yes, reminds me of Gibson's Braveheart somehow.

This mobie is a never ending reflection of a true hero's selflessness, then and now. The men in the military who served their countries well, and yet shamelessly labeled as traitors and 'criminals' by the very people they were sworn to protect and die for. Makes Nicholson's "You can't handle the truth..." speech all the more painfully piercing. 

Comment by Zen In FRED's Nutsack on May 21, 2012 at 2:27pm

And got fucked by both sides, too. Great character, gives you a lot to think about. 

Comment by Isabelle on May 21, 2012 at 2:21pm

Watched it over the weekend. Had to strain thy ears to understand thine (?) language.

In the end, he served Rome from both sides.

Comment by Zen In FRED's Nutsack on May 15, 2012 at 1:08pm

Fuck me, you're getting married to Gerard Butler???

;-)

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